Dear Lazyweb,

As of a few weeks ago, we have a computer hooked up to the 66 inch TV full-time. However, it currently has a wired keyboard and mouse, both of which are less than optimal when you'd prefer to keep your ass on the couch and pick a movie from the server upstairs.

So I'm soliciting recommendations for a wireless keyboard and mouse (or keyboard/mouse combo) that has decent range (20-30 feet, ideally) and doesn't take up too much space. The keyboard doesn't need a numeric keypad or even full-sized keys. It's only going to be used to type a small amount: occasional hits to IMDB and renaming a folder or two.

The mouse should be a reliable two or three button optical that can tolerate occasional attacks by our cats and possibly even a spilled drink.

On option that is highly rated but also highly priced is the Logitech diNovo Edge 2-Tone 84 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Bluetooth Wireless Mini Keyboard. Reviews claim is has excellent size and range. But the touchpad mouse seems a bit funky. However, I do like the idea of it being built-in so there's only one object to deal with.


Thanks in advance,

Posted by jzawodn at September 22, 2008 02:28 PM

Reader Comments
# Charles said:

I recommend the Apple Bluetooth Keyboard. Very small, no numeric keypad, unsurpassed design, half the price of the Logitech you cited. The Apple Wireless Mighty Mouse is pretty darn good too.

on September 22, 2008 03:11 PM
# Jeff Boulter said:

I asked the same question a couple of years ago and I learned from the HTPC crowd about this one:

It's tiny, includes a mouse thingy, and cheap.

I don't know where else they sell it, but I'm sure you could find it or a similar one elsewhere.

on September 22, 2008 03:12 PM
# Jesse Andrews said:

I have a similar setup at my placed (not quite as big a monitor, but a mac mini connected to a HDTV).

I really recommend the newest Apple Bluetooth keyboard. The apple mouse is crap... My only complaint is there isn't a cradle for it.

For mice, the Microsoft Bluetooth mice are great! I've been through 3 wireless mice and the "Wireless Laser Mouse 8000" is the best I've used. I got one for work and after using it for a week I replaced my home's wireless logitech mouse with it.

on September 22, 2008 04:45 PM
# Roko said:

I have a HTPC and I use the following keyboard:

It works OK for minor amount of typing and has good range. Also you might want to look into something like iMon as its easier then having to use a keyboard all the time.

on September 22, 2008 07:12 PM
# Scott said:

A Logitech option that is cheaper than the diNovo is the Cordless Mediaboard series. They are marketed for PS3 but also work fine with Windows/Mac:,en

There are Bluetooth and Wireless versions.

on September 22, 2008 07:47 PM
# CS said:

+1 on any logitech

on September 22, 2008 08:34 PM
# helpermonkey said:

Why do you need a keyboard and mouse? Why not use a universal remote and just program it to respond to certain keys (ie - the back and forward buttons and the nav arrows, enter...etc... etc..) That's what i've done with my harmony One (

on September 22, 2008 11:22 PM
# Matt said:

I use a Microsoft Remote Keyboard (Windows XP Media Center Edition).

Not under Windows XP mind you.. but Linux running MythTV.
I find that whilst the 'mouse joystick' isn't the best, it's actually convenience and the keyboard sits well on your lap.

A bit of hacking and I've got pretty much all the keys working.

Add to that I'm using one of the Logitech Harmony remotes. So I only really pick up the keyboard when I need to type something... as the Harmony has me covered for pure MythTV options.

on September 22, 2008 11:31 PM
# Life Tester said:

(well) I would love to have this one :-)

Ione Scorpius P20ST

on September 23, 2008 02:05 AM
# Kris Buytaert said:

I`m just running a Vino server on the HTPC box then use VNC to connect to it from any laptop which I have lying around anyhow when on the couch .. :)

on September 23, 2008 03:55 AM
# Jeremy Zawodny said:


That's kinda what I'm doing now.

on September 23, 2008 06:46 AM
# Todd Troxell said:

I've been pretty happy with the diNovo Edge-- the touchpad is indeed funky, but the overall design and materials are really pleasing. My HTPC box runs basically only gnome-terminal and mplayer, so the touchpad isn't really used.

on September 23, 2008 12:02 PM
# eDRoaCH said:

Dont buy without checking out BTC keyboards.
I picked up a returned for $32 at frys a couple years back and absolutely love it. Cheap, simple, NOT IR, built in mouse, top buttons programable (I have Home to TV, Favorites to Recorded shows, and whatever the 3rd one is to Guide in MCE)

And no I dont work for them ;) I would LOVE a DiNovo mini but I cant justify the price for how often I'd use it. (Not to mention loose it)

on September 23, 2008 08:22 PM
# David said:

I like the Adesso SlimTouch Wireless 2.4 GHz RF Mini Touchpad Keyboard, model # WKB-4000US available from NewEgg. It's like a laptop keyboard with touchpad. Great for couch surfing.

on September 23, 2008 09:46 PM
# Peeping Tom said:

I second Jesse's comment about the Apple BT kb. Very compact and light (no number pad), though I have not tested on a PC yet (not sure about drivers). I have a Logitech V470 BT mouse. The mouse works well with my Vista laptop and my Mac Mini. The blue version of the V470 is $42.24 shipped at Amazon.

on September 24, 2008 09:03 AM
# Peeping Tom said:

Forgot to mention that the V470 works on fabric (bed sheets, couch fabric). :)

on September 24, 2008 09:06 AM
# Ask Bjørn Hansen said:

I like the new Apple Bluetooth Keyboard and the Logitech V470 combo, too.

We use a projector, so our mac mini/ps3/receiver/wii/.. is relatively close behind where we sit, but as long as you're in the same room I'd think the bluetooth signals will reach just fine.

on September 24, 2008 12:16 PM
# Chris said:

I have the keyboard reviewed here:

and I have to say that the review is spot on. For when it's necessary, it's a good keyboard. I do all of my system control (MythTV) with a Harmony 620 remote. The keyboard comes out when it's time to type into search fields and such.

To give you a better idea of the size, I can pick it up with one hand spread across the keyboard (palming it). It's small, light, unobtrusive and the power button by the trackball means it sips power. Mine lives propped up against the wall beside my chair.

I got mine from for $10.


on September 24, 2008 03:32 PM
# Andrew said:

@Kris & Jeremy
Try Input Director (google it) same idea as your vnc setup but with less security issues and it's way easier. Just toss your cursor off one side of your laptop and it appears on your htpc.... very nice, fast and FREE. :)

on September 24, 2008 04:33 PM
# Ahzee Dahak said:

I use a PC for the majority of my entertainment center, and I really love gthe Logitech DiNovo Mini, here:

Media center controllers only work for a limited subset of controls, so you end up with a keyboard, mouse, and a remote all for one device. This thing's not for typing novels on, but I can type URLs, rename files, and whatnot. It's got a rechargeable battery that lasts for about a month between pit-stops, an integrated dust cover to keep it looking sharp in the middle of the family room, Bluetooth connectivity, and very straightforward back lighting. You can even use it one-handed with a beer in your off-hand. The touchpad is a little weird, in that it's about the same as any laptop in the world, but a much smaller surface. However, it's the most convenient and capable controller for the family room I've used. And that includes wireless lapboards, RF trackballs, remotes, and keyboard/mouse combos.

on September 30, 2008 02:02 PM
# Dave Golden said:

Hi Jeremy,

I have gread luck with the Adesso wirless mini keyboard. Check it out at


on October 1, 2008 06:04 AM
# Brett said:

If you have a laptop already, save yourself the money and just use synergy:

It's software that allows you to use the mouse/keyboard of one computer for another. Just scroll your mouse off the edge of the screen and it appears on your HDTV. Pretty slick.

on October 3, 2008 05:08 PM
# Jeremy Johnstone said:

I would look into the Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard. Yeah, sure it's Apple and I know you aren't a fan, but the keyboard is great, thin, small, and pretty indestructable.

on October 6, 2008 12:02 AM
# chris2 said:

One thing for sure, you don't want a keyboard with a touchpad. In my case it starts to hurt my hands after a period of use. My friends complain about it as well. It is so not ergonomic.

I have the BTC URF 9019. It's ok, but starts to become big.
I also have the Trust. Its very good, but the casing is very cheap. It is a very small board though.

The Logitech boards are a big no because of the price. Just like the Apple boards.

The BTC 9039URF III look interesting, but i can't find this cheaper than 75 dollars. So i find it too expensive.

I would recommend to stick with the Trust for now and wait till some company comes with a good decent priced board. The Trust will do your few clicks and hits fine.

on October 18, 2008 04:09 PM
# kgb said:

The best HTPC keyboard is the apple Ipod touch. The apps mocha and Jaadu allow you to use the ipod touch as a wireless keyboard / mouse with plenty functionality. I also have the DiNovo Mini, but the Ipod is much better.

on October 29, 2008 02:21 PM
# Rodney N said:

hi there people.

check out the keyboard from linen-n-more(dot)com, i have one and been using it for about 4 months, i have my laptop connected to the big screen and use the htpc keyboard which works like a dream. its very thin lightweight and works from around 20 meters away from the laptop, with 4AAA batteries lasting over 6 months.

we have the keyboard on special this month for AUD $110.00.
it works on 2.4 GHZ and never had a problem with other wireless signal in the room.

if you have any questions feel free to drop me a line.

on November 23, 2008 01:14 AM
# Laptop keyboards said:

That's how you know a keyboard is good.

on December 1, 2008 12:49 AM
# Keyboard HP ZE2000 ZE2300 DV5000 381068-001 said:

Excellent site!

on December 29, 2008 04:25 AM
# Robert K said:

i bought BTC wireless keyboard from this site. they have alot of HTPC keyboards. from mini to full size, with touchpad, trackball or even joystick.

on February 27, 2009 01:46 AM
# Wys said:

I have the review for Logitech diNovo Edge Bluetooth Keyboard here :

This product has a unique style and hold a pretty good battery charge. But it has no numeric keypad and the Nonstandard layout makes the southpaw mousers will suffer from the layout of trackpad that positioned off to the right.

Some reviewers said it's overpriced.

on March 2, 2009 05:32 PM
# Wesley Myers said:

I just got a Zippy RF-666 HTPC keyboard from It works perfectly for the HTPC. This keyboard has a built in laser trackball and a scroll wheel. You can adjust the speed of the trackball to fit your need. It a great wireless keyboard for HTPC.

on March 20, 2009 09:47 AM
# William Mehl said:

I was thinking to get the Logitech Dinovo Edge for my media center pc, but it over my budget. I research online for a lower cost solution. Finally, I got the Zippy RF636 wireless keyboard with a built in touchpad. Excellent quality keyboard with the touchpad. Good operation range. 30 to 40 feet without problem. No delay or drop key. I don't need to find a place for my regular wireless keyboard and mouse anymore.

on September 20, 2009 12:21 PM
# Adam said:

Hi William,

Could you please tell me if you are able to turn off the double tap function of the Zippy RF636 touchpad? I hate it when I accidentally double click by double tapping and the keyboard you recommended looks really nice.


on October 5, 2009 07:44 PM
# Paul said:

For a remote I use a Gyration. It is very hard to go past, since it has full media center functionality and mouse functions in one device.

For a keyboard I use the one Gyration gave me with the remote.

on December 8, 2009 08:34 PM
# Jim said:

I also concern the double tap issue, but I still got this keyboard becuase of the price point and features. It doesn't come with driver to disable the double tap function, but i just adjust the double click speed under "mouse" in control pannel and it solved the problem easily.

on December 9, 2009 05:20 PM
# Scott said:

Wireless Entertainment Desktop 7000 is a really good keyboard. I have two at home. There is the Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000 as well.

on December 12, 2009 02:58 PM
# angou chai said:

you product is well!
but now have a wonderfull product for ipazzport
the wireless handhand keyboard .very small,the size az moible phone!
if you need.please search"USB Wireless Handheld Keyboard and Touchpad"

on January 3, 2010 07:04 PM
# road said:

The Adesso Wireless Slimtouch is really fantastic. It is the perfect KB/touchpad for couch sufring -- very comfortable. I plugged it into my Mac Mini and it was autodetected and installed within seconds. Everything works as advertised (scrolling, touchpad, fn keys, etc)


on January 20, 2010 06:39 PM
# Martin said:

I first bougth the (expensive) "DiNovo Mini" to control my HTPC and PS3, but it required me to repeat the BT pairing process each time I wanted to switch to the other device.

I finally ended up downloading the (cheap) bluetooth keyboard app "blueboard" from windows mobile marketplace. Now I use the keyboard of my windows phone (xperia) to control my PS3 and HTPC. The touch screen acts as trackpad. With this app I don't have to repeat the BT pairing each time I want to switch to the other device.

on January 25, 2010 03:55 AM
# Megaco Mike said:

I got the ipazzport that angou referenced a few weeks ago. works very well with touchpad and full qwerty. Wish it had a trackball, but seems pretty good for the price. Bought it on the Unisen-USA site.

on January 28, 2010 12:58 PM
# Theo Carter said:

MegaMike your right, the pazzports the way too go! using mine for netflix and skype on the plasma. Too easy to use.

on January 28, 2010 05:59 PM
# Rob S said:

I got the iPazzPort...or whatever its called from EFO, the bluetooth version and it is junk, feels cheaply made and I can't walk more then 2 feet away from my computer without it disconnecting. I cant even tell if it disconnects cause there is no indicator/status light that tells me.

Looks like I might be going with the Lenovo 57Y6336:¤t-category-id=E9ADAEB6787146E29B78400A33E7FE8A

Or iOne Scorpius P20MT:

on February 23, 2010 06:54 PM
# Rambo said:

If all you need is some occasional typing like you say, all you need is a mouse and an app called MouseBoard which you can find at
This app lets you type by just using your mouse.
It´s really cool and really cheap.

on April 14, 2010 09:43 AM
# Tukom said:

Logitech MX Air Mouse has been a clear winner for me already for two years. It simply fits nicely to the living room design and is easy to use with air gestures. Check out more info at

on April 30, 2010 11:58 AM
# Cheap Laptops said:

In my though USB mouse and keyboards are always ready to use and east to plug. Try this once

on July 27, 2010 12:14 AM
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