For quite a while now, I've been removing occasional comments from my weblog. Not just spammers. If someone violates my weblog comment policy, I nuke their comment(s). It's that simple.
Until now, I hadn't published my policy. Instead, I forgot about Rule #1 (People Are Stupid) and figured that common sense would rule the day.
Ha!
So, here are the rules--things you should not do when posting a comment on my weblog. And since it is my weblog and not yours, you don't have a lot of say in the matter, do you?
DO NOT:
- post off-topic. If you're not sure what the topic is, you probably shouldn't be commenting.
- engage in personal attacks.
- provide a fake e-mail address. If you don't want to leave an address, leave it blank.
- provide a URL to a non-weblog. If you don't have a weblog or don't want to link to it, leave it blank too.
- spam. Yes, this is redundant with #1 most of the time, but I figured I ought to be explicit.
I'll update this post from time to time as rules change. I'll also link it from the comment form so that nobody can claim ignorance.
Violation of this policy may mean any of the following:
- I will remove your comments.
- I will block your attempts to comment in the future.
- I will contact your Internet Service Provider.
- I will randomly screw with your mind.
To the 99% of you that never needed to read this in the first place, thanks for putting up with this post.
Posted by jzawodn at July 13, 2004 02:07 PM
Help! Getting nervous here.
I fall under rule #1. When am I posting off-topic? Am I doing it now? So after this post I will be banned and get randomly screwed with my mind? But I am already screwed up (see rule #1). What kind of screwing are you going to use? Just asking...
#4 was non-obvious to me and I prob violated it at some point - I don't have a weblog yet. Apologies.
A propos of nothing, I ended up self-censoring a long comment/rant about the comments on a previous post of yours. For the record those anonymous #$%#s deserve to have something unmentionable happen to them.
I had all the screws in my mind replaced with those funky ones which no screwdriver will fit. :)
Well, Alden, I had originally recommended invoking sixteen different degrees of witchcraft, specifically to deal with hex nuts.
(And now i'm guessing that this comment will get deleted for being just a really bloody awful joke.)
re: "provide a fake e-mail address. If you don't want to leave an address, leave it blank.
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I generally put bogus email adresses in comments because:
some blog comment scripts will demand a non-blank email address entry and if you don't put one in, will page refresh and nuke your comment. The Scoblizer blog got me that way.
Some blogs let themselves be scraped for address. Joi Ito's blog got me that way.
just two data points
I have a similar policy for comments on my weblog. But it's not published. If the comment doesn't fit, it just gets nuked. After all, it's my site.
Hi Jeremy-
Good comments policy, which, I suppose will give you a good deal of latitude in sanctioning that which you find offensive or non-responsive.
I may have to stop posting to be compliant with it, but I'll try...
JJ
#5 is *not* necessarily redundant with #1. I've seen lots of comment spam on my sites where the comment text was actually on-topic, and obviously hand-written by someone who had read the article that they were commenting on. But they were blatantly commenting for the sole purpose of exposing their URL.
Ironically, this occurs most frequently on my anti-spam blog.
Martijn: If Jeremy didn't delete your posts, they're probably on topic :-) To the extent he cares, anyway...
Best,
-=Alan
Doug, if the comment was ontopic, even if the commenter was trolling for pagerank, why did you remove him? Did it not add *any* value at all?
"Doug[al], if the comment was ontopic, even if the commenter was trolling for pagerank, why did you remove him? Did it not add *any* value at all?"
Who says I removed them? Actually, I think I did remove many of them. But in some cases, I just removed the link to the user's site, and left the comment text in place.
But to answer your question, why did I remove them? It's my blog. I can moderate comments however I see fit, and when it comes down to it, I don't have to explain my logic (or lack thereof) to anybody. But, that said, I'm still not comfortable removing comments that sit in that "gray" zone. I'll probably create a plugin for my site that lets me either remove or redirect comment author URIs with just a click.
If people are posting valid comments but linking to a non-weblog site, why bother? It seems they could be using their time spamming for page rank elsewhere.
I can see the value if the comment was violating of rules 1, 2 or 5, but why does it matter if it's a weblog or not? A personal page doesn't have to be a weblog, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be counter-intuitive to post a non-weblog personal page as your URL. Perhaps posting a link to a business page is a bit shady, but what if that's someone's legitimate home on the web?
I can see your point, and unless you're really getting comment-spammed/trolled/etc.'d, I don't think most people are out there to comment just to raise their page rank. Maybe that's a bit too optimistic, but I think that most people would rather spam wikis.
This was most interesting, especially Mr. Campbell's comments regarding anti-spam software. I've been exploring blogs for two purposes: 1) to try and understand blogs (which is why I read the rules article), and 2) to find people that might be interested in and find useful a free product I've spent a year developing. So you could say my motivation is selfish -- but if I didn't tell anyone about it then no one would benefit from it. Right?
So I've left my URL blank (it's my commercial web site). Hope this isn't interpreted as spam.
You should also add that you close the comments after xx number of days... Or maybe just not display the form any more after comments can no longer be posted.
> Ironically, this occurs most frequently on my anti-spam blog.
had a similar experience, most spam occured in articles offending spam practices.
jeremy, i would like to mention an annoying feature of your comment functionality regarding older articles:
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Comment Submission Error
Your comment submission failed for the following reasons:
Comments are not allowed on this entry.
Please correct the error in the form below, then press POST to post your comment.
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Do you call that a joke?
there is no hint that comments are not allowed. even the preview works. it's frustrating to write a comment, perhaps a longer one, use the preview, make corrections and after that nothing happens, nothing positive :-(
at least there should be a hint, and better, there should be a deactivation of the comment form.
it's your blog, it's your kitchen, but we are your guests. i hope for a little bit more hospitality :)
MT-Blacklist is doing well enough that I'm thinking of re-enabling comments on old entries.
#5 is absolutely not reduntant with #1.
Tonight for example I registered a few sites in a directory for what I though was a one time fee. This shoddy directory confirmed my submissions and then sent me the email telling me that the submission was for one month.
One of the sites I entered into their directory was my SEO blog. Within 10 minutes of my sites being listed in their directory they spammed my blog up with various semi correct on topic information linking to about a half dozen of their crummy sites (with optimized link text of course).
I sometimes feel in question when deleting a comment or feel guilty when I am unsure of the intentions of the author. It is totally relevant to call out a comment policy.
Some people who believe in the blog only comments idea just go one step futher and disable comments but leave trackbacks open. It is a sad price to pay though to miss out on feedback.
Was it ever clarified as to what screwing your mind entailed or if it went any farther than your mind :)
What if someone's personal site is, say, a Wiki rather than a Weblog? Why are you prejudiced against Wikis? :-)
And what if someone's only Weblog is one published for profit?
I disabled commenting on our blog completely. It took too much time to go through all the messages. I don't think this policy will help a lot.
Over the last 5 years I've become a sort of yahoo message board addict. But the blogs seem to offer some better features.
I regard the message boards as a "company water cooler". I spend large amounts of time on the computer waiting for something to happen with certain stocks I follow, (I'll scalp positions intraday or over a few day period, I'm monitoring changes in volume and tend to fade against multiple sigma deviations in instances where I feel my business knowledge allows me to understand the reason for a mutual fund dumping panic).
Given my responsibilities, I’m one of those guys always around the water cooler. In fact, hanging out around the cooler often produces leads. I'm fairly well read and my joy for irony and complexity makes me think in a devils advocate/outside the box way.
What’s the etiquette for posting? Is the standard of something to add on a subject at a social gathreing high enough? Or a thought or question that I might have asked after a lecture back at Cal? If something you write triggers a one off thought stemming from an initial response I think of, is it appropriate to respond via track back?
I tried something on the Orwell piece you did.
I actually continued the complexity of expression subject on a yahoo chatboard (because no one came out to play?)
Any thoughts? Again this isn’t meant as a challenge in anyway….I’d like to understand general protocol so I don’t make too come off as too much a dweeb!
Tom
As for #4, what about the people who has to share the site for blogging and non-blogging activity? I only have one site and I host both non-blog and blog on it.
Link to the blog. That's what "Weblog URL" means.
Great policy, but it seems like it's not working too well...is the MT comment filter active?
Wordpress has some pretty good automatic comment spam tools available now as well for those buried under this type of garbage.
I've got mixed feelings about deleting comments from weblogs. One of the things that was so useful about Usenet was that there was no moderation, so you got to see all kinds of feedback. It's a shame that the tragedy of the commons hit it so hard, and moderation is a way of keeping that fate at bay... but, damn...
I could use some help installing firefox on
Mac OS 10.2.8.
Not sure if this would be a place to make this request as this is the first time I'm doing this. I have downloaded Firefox but can't seem to do anything else with it.
Can you help or direct me to a place for support. I guess I can also call Mozilla directly.
Thanks.
Lori
#3 is always a difficult one. I tend to write out the email addresses (i.e. peter at search engine blog dot com) so the harvester bots don't get them, however real people still know where to send you mail. Does your field allow this?
Hopefully those bots don't get smarter :)
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Seens good polices, but it is also very hard to stop Spamers, you may take many times to remove spam messages.
If you're so particular about people entering their e-mail addresses correctly, you should also explain how that address will be handled: Will the address be displayed publicly? It seems so, because I can see other commenters' addresses in some cases.
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In a perfect world there wouldnt be any need for a comments policy, but we're far from a perfect world, and the freedom of the Internet seems to encourage the worst of people.
I really wanted to have comments on my blog, just to see what others think about it. But I don't allow comments at the moment because of comment spam. I didn't want people putting up links to obscene sites and the like on my blog. I also didn't want to spend all my time editing my blog comments. I think the new "nofollow" attribute will help alot. Google, Yahoo, and MSN are all planning on supporting it. I hope using this new tag removes comment spam forever.
I think I should post about this myself...
The abuse on the internet is not only offensive but can lead to the discouraging new users to the comments system who are usaware.
Jeremy, you have an awesome blog and are pretty generous in letting people link from your site in their comments. I think your rule about only liking other blogs is a bit strict but its your show so I understand.
Sounds interesting, I need some help regarding commenting, can you help me?
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I feel sorry for all the people who have been having problems with seasonal allergies. If you go to an allergist which involves several visits, they will tell you what you are allergic to and they can desentisize you for about 2 years, after which you have to do it all over again. However, you can determine yourself what you are allergic to, by observation. Most common food allergies are milk, cheese, wheat, eggs, peanuts,yeast and others. If you are allergic to dust and dander then you have to get rid of it or also use an air filter/humidifier. To avoid using drugs, you have to take a complete vitamin and mineral supplement and increase your dose of Ester C (not ascorbic acid) to 2,000 mg daily for at least a month. After that you can go down to 500 mg per day. Avoid foods with artificial colors and sulfites. Dried fruits and salads in salad bars might contain sulfites.One might be allergic also to fermented foods which include beer and wine. Aside from vitamins,avoiding foods you are allergic to, getting enough sleep and rest, you have the exercise factor. Exercise boosts your immune system. All these take about 3 months to take effect. It takes some kind of discipline and seriousness about your health to achieve it. Allergies cannot be totally eradicated. You will be sneezing now and then, but rarely, and not enough to bother you. Long time use of drugs can lead to other ailments.
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When ever i sign on yahoo and click on to start a conversation with someone, a window comes up where i only have two options one, which says Send Error Report and the other one says Don't Send so even if i click any of them yahoo messenger closes up?
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I've just finished reading this entire page,I wonder about that 1% hahaha! This made my day,I am laughing here thinking...there are so many run on /off topics & strange postings! Jeremy,have you gone astray on this? I would point to a Nov 22nd post up there.."real people still know where to send you email"..I am real and came to this place because I couldn't find a "contact me" button and since you now have my ISP info- you know I'm real :) I'm not in violation of the policy..is there a way to contact you other than the comment box? Better yet,since all of the above is taken into consideration- can you contact me ...oh and I am still laughing from all the read on this policy page comments..thanks :)
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Of course, ironically, there is spam in the comments on this page.
I feel that if someone responds with a post which is relevant to the topic, they should be reworded with the link they leave. Afterall, it's the topic related responses which work to better serve your blog site.
Mark C.
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Sometimes I do ramble but I'm always trying to be helpful, interesting, and amusing!
So when you were wearing your "I'm not Matt Cutts" t-shirt were you spamming at pubcon?
Spam is a real problem for us, bloggers. For example, Matt Cutts really often link to his "rules" page couse of spammers. You are right when you don't do it so difficult to comment that can prevent usual users from commenting. It's hard but this is our work!
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I like youre criteria about Weblog Comment Policy. And i am surprize about what an good blogger admin can do. Why? Because i see lot of blogs where the single policy was just to put on link rel="nofolow". I think this policy blog it's good for people who are interested about blog discussion and not to see only spam message or outher java script advertising.Thanks
I'm surprised to see such a large response to your post on "My Weblog Comment Policy". I followed a link to this post after seeing that my comment to another post was under review.
Why is this the case?
1. People like to discuss metadata more than data.
2. Since this is a not a specific topic, you'd deem fewer comments to be spam.
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Dear friend
i am impressed with your great policy
hey friend
should you relax it for a guy like me who is google publisher and want to have realy a link from your website to get mutual benifite
please put a link to my website and i will put for yours
we both progress
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those are hard rules. Don't you think that you are being severe whit those?
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