I'm hacking on a project and don't have time to write much more about the news than I already did on the Yahoo! Search blog.
Yes! And as of today, del.icio.us is part of the Yahoo! family.
But I just wanted to briefly say "welcome aboard" to the del.icio.us crew. 2006 is gonna be a hell of a year at Yahoo! 2005 sure has been...
Posted by jzawodn at December 09, 2005 11:56 AM
So cool. Yahoo! is making some real nimble moves recently.
Yahoo! lucked out. Made it through the tough times, and is buying up these cool companies at mere pennies on the 1999 dollar.
and its nice to see you're actually doing some work. Been awhile since you were "hacking on a project" instead of "packing for a trip". :)
Wow, nice move. Yahoo is really making headways in the brave new world of Web 2.0 and AJAX.
With Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo competing fiecely in this area, the public will reap the benefits;)
as a heavy delicious user i see this mostly as a good. all of the goodness of yahoo (good ops, inifinite hardware budget) now falls to delicious. the challenge for yahoo will be to make something like this interesting to the 99.9999% of web users who have no idea what delicious is or how social tagging works or why they should care. we'll see. what does this mean for myweb?
Treat them better than you've treated blo.gs.
("you" refers to Yahoo!, not Jeremy, of course)
Whatz next? LinkedIn/Plaxo?
Che Dong
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There goes the support for Mac now :( Hope Google comes up with a similar feature before Yahoo makes del.icio.us Internet Explorer/Microsoft specific.
On another note, it seems Yahoo's strength is acquisition, like innovation is Google's. How about Yahoo coming up with something new and exciting like it was in the mid to late 90s?
>> How about Yahoo coming up with something new and
>> exciting like it was in the mid to late 90s?
because the 90s are gone. the web was only born once.
i'm constantly perplexed by these comments that seem to implore yahoo et al to come up with something "new".
what is it people want? do you even know?
the web business is mature and yahoo is a mass-market company. their goal is to promote services and media to the mass market and monetize it. its almost boring. i don't know why the "bleeding edge" crowd continues to obsess over these commodity businesses that cater to mainstream demographics.
Grumpy,
Great response except that coherence is absent. First of all, the internet was not born in the late 90s. The public perception might be such but what you see now was created in August 1991. CERN in Switzerland publicized the new World Wide Web project, two years after Tim Berners-Lee had begun creating HTML, HTTP and the first few web pages at CERN in Switzerland. Certainly not the late 1990s if you were laboring under that misconception.
Secondly, if there is nothing new to create (classic defeatist argument) then how come everyone from Google to Flickr to del.icio.us are coming up with new "things" that are considered worthy enough for acquisition? Needless to say, there are numerous examples of wonderful innovations from some very imaginative people.
If I'm working in an organization that provides service and throw up my hands saying I don't know/care what people want then I should maybe look for some other field of work. It is not about bleeding edge. Its about all of us working in computing technology because its forever evolving and improving.
>> Secondly, if there is nothing new to create (classic defeatist argument) then how come everyone from Google to Flickr to del.icio.us are coming up with new "things" that are considered worthy enough for acquisition?
you seem to think that to be acquired you must demonstrate a viable product that adds real value in the economy.
i point you to broadcast.com, bought for 4 billion and change by yahoo and now not even a memory not even six years later. people to this day still ask mark cuban if he sold yahoo a pet rock.
now i am not saying that any of flickr, delicious etc are in the "pet rock" category like some of the 90s firms, but they don't solve a major problem or add a significant major economic value. they are just neat tools with some nice enhancements, and they bring some bright people along with them when they are acquired. but i don't think i am insulting anyone associated with them to say that numbers like "$100 million++" were never going to show up on their revenue sheets. they're niches.
what i am saying is that the big strides, for now, have been made, and the industry is maturing. the notion that these markets are still "wide open" is fallacious blue-skying. look at the maps market. do you know what the #1 maps site is? mapquest. the one with the most old-skule tech still has the largest marketshare by a decent margin. look at search: yahoo and msn have spent billions on search and tests indicate that they are competitive, yet google still has marketshare. google is not invincible either. i don't see ebay folding up shop due to googlebase. yahoo mail still has many more email users than gmail, even with its prehistoric public UI. amazon's finances are contained more by seasonality and macro factors than getting some new tech up to speed or dealing with a scrappy startup. these are mature businesses.
will better tech turn fortunes in these markets? maybe, but chances are at this point, putting the development funds into advertizing and marketing will have as much an impact as revving the tech. lots of people just buy what they see advertized on tv.
>> If I'm working in an organization that provides service and throw up my hands saying I don't know/care what people want then I should maybe look for some other field of work.
i'm not telling you to not care, i think you're projecting. i'm telling you that if you want to head into a garage and become a billionaire, you are probably better off (for example) trying to perfect an ultra-efficient alternative energy technology than trying to build another website thinking you have a crazy new idea that is going to take one of the established players out at the knees.
There are so many people care anything about yahoo!This is a good thing.
A great move, esp when you redesign the del.icio.us interface to be less geeky. The search battles are REALLY getting interesting - MSN's Neural Network vs Google Algorithmic vs Yahoo's Hybridized editor/algo model....and the winner is...
I just couldn't stand the bitching going on at the del.icio.us blog.
I talked about some of that here:
http://www.dustindiaz.com/yahoo-buys-delicious/
well said, grumpy.
i think my web is a fantastic tool and i'm excited for what's in store now that yahoo owns the 2 best social-bookmarking sites: my web & delicious.
even if delicious doesn't change at all now, yahoo can still cherrypick their best features and add those to my web.
o happy day...
Thanks. I can't barely wait for Yahoo to fag up all of del.icio.us. Thanks, we really need it.
> Your lack of faith in Joshua is sad.
After all, it worked out for flickr so well, now did it? The moment I have to go through the Yahoo interrogation, oops I mean registration, I am out of there as well.
> A great move, esp when you redesign the del.icio.us interface to be less geeky.
It's not the interface, del.icio.us itself is very geeky. That's why I'm very skeptical about the whole thing. Take a look at their most popular tags at http://del.icio.us/tag/ : 'linux', 'programming', etc. My mom doesn't know what AJAX is =)
Good move, if you(My Web) can't beat them(del.icio.us), but them.
Really cool, delicious is the kind of community service Yahoo! needs. Reminds me of the 400K directory listing results Yahoo! used to serve in the good ol' days, although delicious handles the link exchange system much cleaner ;)
