I had my second Citabria lesson this afternoon. Dave and I took N5032 up for an hour on this nice sunny Saturday.

Takeoff was normal, except that I really need to use more right rudder at that high power setting. We made a downwind departure to the south. At 4,500 Dave had me practice a few more steep turns. When I demonstrated that I could do the turns wihout gaining or loosing more than 40-50 feet of altitude, he was happy and moved us on to some stalls. We did power on and power off, both turning and straight ahead. He also asked me to stall the plane with the power at idle, keep the stick all the way back, and then just fly with the rudder. That was an interesting experience. The plane flopped around quite a bit and I thought for sure it was going to spin, but it never happened.

That was really just good foreshadowing, since we worked on spins next. Unlike the gliders I've spun, the Citabria spins rather quickly and doesn't require and forward stick pressure during recovery. I believe we did a total of three spins, one to the left and two to the right.

With that out of the way, he showed me what happens if you try a full power on stall and never let up on the stick. In that situation, the plane goes all sorts of crazy but never gets out of hand.

We concluded our fun over the hills with a demonstration of a loop. I was surprised to learn that he used a loop entry speed of 140 miles per hour. Considering what we can get away with in a glider, that seemed a bit high.

After that we headed back to the airport. It was fun to try judging how quickly I needed to descend so that we'd get back at the right altitude. A few miles out, Dave asked me to bring the power back to idle. I did but soon realized we wouldn't quite make the runway (probably 200 feet short). That's apparently second nature from all my glider landings. We gave it a little juice a bout a mile out so that we'd clear the fence and setup to land.

Over the runway I tried to get the plane slowed down and into a landing attitude. I just pretended it was a big glider that liked to be stalled on landing. It worked pretty well. I stalled about two feet too high so we landed harder than I'd like, but it wasn't a "hard" landing by any stretch of imagination.

After we taxied back to the tie-down spot, I asked how much of the landing was him and how much was me (I've noticed him on the controls a few times but wasn't sure if he was helping on landing or just following along). He said it was basically me and that I had the landing mostly figured out--at least for landing with a slight headwind.

Next time we fly he wants to do a few more spins and give me a spin endorsement. Heh. I guess we're not doing things in the "normal" order for a new student, but it's all the same to me. At some point I'm sure we'll worry about more mundane things like radio communication and landings. :-)

Posted by jzawodn at September 10, 2005 07:05 PM

Reader Comments
# John Dodge said:

Since you're pandering to the left with your one-sided anti-Bush links in your link blog, let me ask: What are you doing to help those affected by Katrina? Or do you care only about spending lots of money having fun in airplanes and gliders and bragging about it while others have lost everything and suffer in abject devastation?

on September 10, 2005 07:51 PM
# Jeremy Zawodny said:

I'm not harassing people on their weblogs for not writing about the one thing that's been written about more than probably anything else this year.

on September 10, 2005 08:02 PM
# Chris said:

Hey John Dodge,

WTF difference does it make to you how Jeremy spends his spare time and salary?

Did he create Katrina? No. Is he responsible for it? No. So I guess he should go wear sackcloth and ashes and sit in the dark instead of doing what he loves in case he offends you.

on September 11, 2005 12:10 AM
# John Dodge said:

LOL. Touchy touchy. I guess you're doing squat too, eh Chris?

Like I stated (and you obviously failed to comprehend) - "Since you're pandering to the left with your one-sided anti-Bush links in your link blog, let me ask: What are you doing to help those affected by Katrina"?

All the lefty bloggers one-sidedly bashing Bush on the one hand, then bragging about their toys, vacations, Burning Man, etc. etc. etc. on the other hand is really tiring, hypocritical, and pathetic. I've donated quite a bit to various charities. I'd like to know what everybody else has done to help the Katrina victims, particularly those spewing the most venom.

on September 11, 2005 12:16 AM
# Jeremy Zawodny said:

I have no idea what "pandering to the left" has to do with flying. I'm seriously missing something here.

on September 11, 2005 05:41 PM
# W. Ian Blanton said:

So...John, is the new variation of, if you're not in the military, you can't comment on the war?

Fact is, this is JEREMY's weblog dude, he doesn't have to earn the right to post "one-sided" (in your opinion) links on it to anyone, I think it's something that rhymes with "Clean-sweep" or something like that. Oh yeah, free speech.

In addition to that, it's none of your damned business whether he is or is not doing anything to help Katrina victims.

However, y'know what? I'll tell you something you should already know: he is. It's called "taxes" he's paying for FEMA, he's paying for DOHS (ain't that a great acronym? It should be the Official one after Katrina, IMHO D'epartment Of Homeland Security: D'OHS!)

I assume, John, that you are writing this B.S. on his weblog on break from scouring the New Orleans wreckage tagging bodies and looking for survivors, and succoring the wounded and sick.

So, just to save time, I salute you for your sacrifice, and suggest your break time would be better spent getting some well-earned sack time. You've earned it.

Jeremy: Very cool, keep the lesson stories coming, the flight time I've had was all too brief, and jet-based, so it's always nice to read someone's experiences picking up a new skill.

on September 11, 2005 08:21 PM
# John Dodge said:

> It's called "taxes"

Wow. So you're saying there's no point in the existence of American Red Cross, Salvation Army, Second Harvest, Habititat for Humanity, etc. etc. etc? Are you really saying they don't make any difference? They shouldn't be contributed to? Gee, maybe all the musicians playing benefits could just instead shrug and say "I paid taxes." How convenient - I didn't expect anything less from the narcisstic liberal tech crowd. You're really content with only government services? Your ilk can bitch plenty, but when it comes to helping - MIA.

And yes, the links are one-sided. Anybody who's not kidding themselves can see that.

on September 11, 2005 09:31 PM
# Jeremy Zawodny said:

John, how come you only post via open HTTP proxies?

on September 11, 2005 09:36 PM
# Robert Labatt said:

Wow John, you are pretty angry. Please take a breath, stop and think. As noted earlier, this is Jeremy's blog. Not yours, not mine.
Feel free to comment about the things Jeremy is interested in, or is posting about. But, please don't feel that a keyboard and hiding behind an open proxy gives you license, or a soapbox to hammer away at Jeremy or his activities.
We probably all could be doing something more for all victims around the world and when a big earthquake hits my home in the Bay Area, I hope there is some relief for us too. But I don't expect that EVERY person in America will jump up and do something.
It's great that you feel that you have done a lot for folks in NOLA. Please don't assume that Jeremy (or the other folks you are hassling on the web) have not done anything.
I don't know Jeremy. I don't know if he did, or did not help the folks in NOLA. I do know that your tripe is not helping and that it probably has the opposite effect on people. That is, they are less likely to help when you act as you are.
So please, find something else to do with that energy of yours. Or at least use your energy in a more positive way.
Goodnight and please stop with your rant. No one needs that kind of help.

on September 11, 2005 09:57 PM
# W. Ian Blanton said:

Wow John, I never said word one of any of the B.S you said. But that came pretty readily off yer keyboard. So...you believe charities are worthless? Why do you give to them, then? I certainly don't, as I give to two of the ones on your list alone, in addition to others. Not that it's any of your business.

But the fact is, EVERYone in the country has done something to help the folks in NOLA and surrounding areas. and it IS called "taxes".
Whenever anyone give more, THAT is true blue american generosity and spirit. You trying to undermine someone else's opinions based on whether they meet your yardstick, is your problem. Not giving to a charity doesn't make them any less of a citizen or a human, any more than GIVING to a charity makes you a better person. You yourself, seem to be a pretty solid example of that last axiom in action.

Oh, and for the record, I'm registered Republican, registered member of the NRA AND ACLU, so you can shove your name calling of perceived "liberals" where the sun don't shine.

on September 11, 2005 10:56 PM
# W. Ian Blanton said:

Oh, and I almost forgot...NONE of this has ANYthing to do with flying, as Jeremy rightly points out. Which also makes you a troll, in addition to your other, more savory, online personality traits.

What truly boggles me, is that you are carping about the "liberal" BS, when Jeremy is learning to fly. An actual potentially useful SKILL. Trained civilian pilots have been great assets in time of national emergency. And you're castigating him about what he's donating to charities? What a dolt you are.

on September 11, 2005 11:06 PM
# John Dodge said:

You're the one saying paying taxes is "sufficient" (funny how everybody's been blasting the government for their reponse). I never said that - those were questions to YOU, comprende?

> Trained civilian pilots have been great assets in time of national emergency.

YEP, Civil Air Patrol - I see no mention of that in his post.

Finally, if somebody belongs to both the NRA and the ACLU that'd make them more of a libertarian.

on September 11, 2005 11:31 PM
# W. Ian Blanton said:

"Comprende?" Oooh!

Your "questions" were B.S. implication based on nothing I said. I never said "sufficient" either. Nor did I even imply it. I said that, by paying taxes, everyone in the U.S. has CONTRIBUTED to disaster relief. Maybe you should try actual questions, or learning to read.

Does "contributed" have too many mean-old syllables for you?

Does the fact that you contributed to charities mean that you've contributed "sufficiently"?

Beats me, how much did you give?.

What percentage of your income is dedicated to charity?

Is it more than 10% of your gross income?

Can you provide documentation to back it up?

If you don't, am I justified in calling you an amoral commie?

Cause I'm going to. Not because I think you are, I'm doing it just because I want in on the fun.

Oh wait, It's not YOUR job/responsibility, unlike the people in the govt. who are in charge of FEMA, etc al.

If your JOB is to be a leader, and you can't lead, like say, the head of D'OHS, or our current President, you should get the hell outta the position.

Libertarian? Nah, I've hung with too many of them, they tend to be way too dogmatic. Mind you, the Repubs at this point have joined them, in many ways, but I hold out hope that this can be fixed.

Civil Air Patrol?

Gosh, so, if someone's taking their first driving exam, they should mention that they're wanna be an EMT, so that you'll not call them a "Narcissistic liberal"?

And the fact is, you don't have to join an organization to be of help in an emergency. You start sounding more like a commie with each post.

But this comes back to the actual (were you reading for content?) point here: You don't get to decide what people do to "justify" their opinions, any more than you get to determine what political party I belong to.

Jeremy does not have to "balance" the links on his weblog for the likes of you. Or me, for that matter. It's his weblog. It's his opinion. Welcome to America, commie.

I'm sure the links on your weblog/site are VERY balanced. Were you to actually post the address, we could all go look and see?

Of course you won't, which is what I've come to expect from you amoral commies. (I'm still waiting on that paperwork on your charitable contributions....)

on September 12, 2005 06:11 AM
# W. Ian Blanton said:

BTW, Jeremy, sorry for cluttering up your comments with this, say the word, and I'll stop toying with this fool. If we keep this up, Yahoo! searches are going to start leading John Birch people here, or something. :)

on September 12, 2005 06:17 AM
# Jeremy Zawodny said:

Okay guys, enough.

I'll nuke all the comments on this entry if this continues. Do not feed the trolls.

on September 12, 2005 07:42 AM
# Alex K. said:

> At some point I'm sure we'll worry about more mundane things like radio communication and landings.

Heh. "Fly? Yes! Land? No!" (what movie?) Flying's cool.

BTW, W. Ian Blandon - I think you need to butt out too. This IS JZ's blog - your flaming rants are nothing but nonsense.

on September 12, 2005 04:51 PM
# mark pincus said:

hey jeremy, let me know if you want to go for a spin (not literally:) in my bonanza some time. i park it down in ksql anyway.


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