Now I'm no Star Trek nut, but what the heck is with this? Borg drones on Enterprise? Doesn't this seriously mess up the story line of The Next Generation? I thought that Starfleet had no contact with the Borg before their encounter.
Hmm.
I mean, I'm the biggest fan of the Borg, but that's just too strange. Maybe this is how they're gonna spruce up the show.
Update: I jumped the gun. I posted that having only seen the first 10 minutes. That was one of the best episodes yet. I take back what I said. The didn't screw up the time line the way I expected.
Posted by jzawodn at May 07, 2003 08:20 PM
I enjoyed this episode, but I agree that its going to result in some awkward Lucas-esque rewriting of the timeline, unless *its all a dream!*
From what I've read of what they're doing, it sounded like we'd get a *new* mortal enemy. The Sulabahn (sp?) are pretty gnarly, but I don't think they're a good mortal enemy. Klingons, Borg and Romulans are played out too. There needs to be an all-new supervillain. That time manipulation thread was pretty damn good though.
Back to the Borg though. There was an episode earlier this season where Enterprise docked at a magical repair station that adapted to their ship. In the end they found that the station was abducting people and hooking their brains into its computer as processor nodes. I had that that would be the proto-Borg. Maybe they're just pumping up the timeline?
Overall, I'm looking forward to what is coming up.
These Borg were the remains of the sphere that Picard and the Next Generation crew destroyed a couple of movies ago. There were a couple of clues, especially Archer recalling Cochrane's speech. Since the shuttle was destroyed in the end, no pollution of the timeline and in fact actually adds to the past by showing why the Borg would be headed to Earth when Q sent Picard in their path.
I think they are going to use the time-travel story to make this Borg encounter sensical. The Captain was describing the story that Zefram Cochrane told during a commencement speech but that no one believed about how the Borg (although he didn't call them that) had come to assimilate earth. They were defeated, of course, by Starfleet folks from the future.
Also, they didn't actually report back to Starfleet Headquarters on-screen. They also didn't save any dead Borg bodies to test or whatever. I think it's reasonable that when Picard and the TNG gang encounter the Borg collective for the first time, there simply wasn't a Starfleet Record that seemed relevant. They also said that the message being transmitted from the Borg vessel to their home world (as heard by the Doctor) would take a really long time to arrive (I forget the exact # of years). That is another way out - the Borg don't find out about Earth until TNG time.
But yeah. This definitely makes things interesting. I really like this show... it's sweet.
I agree that was a great show, and because the the borg never actually refered to themselves as "the borg" they would only be recorded as a cybernetic organism.
I am looking forward the T-Pol in heat episode next week though. ;)
I saw the last few min of this. In some ways I'd love to see some way of them at least addressing in the Trek universe how suddenly the borg appear and there are no records. From the way the captain was talking this was seen as a fairly serious threat. You'd think there would at least be some reference to it someplace.
Of course. I'm waiting for some kind of weird time travel thing by the end of the series that cleans up a bunch of holes that it sounds like they're going to be digging next season (based on what I saw in a TV Guide article).
Jeremy, which episode was this, im in sweden atm so i wouldnt be up to par with the us schedule.
Well, why is there no mention of this in Star Fleet records? Let alone this attack by a race that sent a killer probe!? Maybe when this is all said and done somebody from the future will tell Archer they are not supposed to be in this state of timeline and technology..i.e. Photon torpedos, already!?!?!?
Oh, yea one more thing! How the hell did people of the pre-22nd century defeat 24th century Borg!?!??
"Borg, sounds Swedish?" from First Contact the movie. Well, Seven looks Swedish, perhaps she can marry Bjorn Borg, haha.
Check out this link.
homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.brace/ntlnewjerus.htm
It looks like a cube to me.
New Jerusalem resembles a Borg Cube coming to Earth from outer space, gasp!
i think there isnt a good enough enemy for the treks its just we dont want it to end
