It's stupid. Very stupid. All it does it mess up my schedule and sleeping habits.
The main purpose of Daylight Saving Time (called "Summer Time" many places in the world) is to make better use of daylight. We change our clocks during the summer months to move an hour of daylight from the morning to the evening.
(Source: Daylight Savings Time on WebExhibits)
Fine. Why don't we just set our clocks ahead one hour permanently and be done with it? Let's "make better use of daylight" all year.
Posted by jzawodn at April 06, 2003 11:39 PM
You wouldn't appreciate it as much if it was always there.
I'm a fan of the theory that it is a plot by the shadow government to undermin the focus and resolve of the american hoi polloi by continuously disturbing their biorhythms.
Seriously daylight savings time is just another PsyOps tactic by them fellas in the black helicopters.
-- George (whose body is quite convinced it is 2 and not 3)
George, I don't even appreciate it now. :-(
Is it REALLY 12:15am already. Damn.
Well I appreciate DST, thankyouverymuch and I would dearly love to have it all year round. California actually petitioned Congress for year-round DST but that was before 9/11 and Iraq so Congress probably has other things on their minds these days :-( DST has been happening since 1916 (in England) and it has been proven to save energy. You'll get used to it in a few days...
Everything is relative. Instead of shifting the ciphers one hour we all could shift our activities one hour - if it makes sense. Permanent or cyclic. So why not open shops at 8 o'clock in summer and 9 o'clock in winter, or perhaps at 8.30 o'clock all the year ;-) Jeremy, I guess you will have very flexible working time at yahoo, so make use of it :)
Apparently one of the main reasons DST came about was during one of the World Wars, in an attempt to save power during the winter months. An hour more daylight can save _a lot_ of power for an entire country.
An hour more? The day is still 24 hours. What's changed is when you clock-in and clock-out at that 9 to 5 job. Farm animals don't care about the clock: work schedules do.
Daylight savings is annoying and I thought it was stupid until I found out that it prevents people from getting killed.
Daylight Saving Time saves lives and prevents traffic injuries. The earlier Daylight Saving Time allowed more people to travel home from work and school in daylight, which is much safer than darkness. And except for the months of November through February, Daylight Saving Time does not increase the morning hazard for those going to school and work.
Daylight Saving Time prevents crime. Because people get home from work and school and complete more errands and chores in daylight, Daylight Saving Time also seems to reduce people's exposure to various crimes, which are more common in darkness than in light.
Isn't daylight savings by the same group that's controlling the weather?
sigh. the "saving lives" argument is such bullshit.
i suspect that more people die in accidents in the winter months because of the weather.
but.. i agree, _standard time_ is dumb. "time" should be set that morning breaks at 7:30am year round.
1) pick some day
2) adjust the time forwards or backwards by
a Half Hour, once and for all
3) done! :-)
It's all a plot by the Illuminati to throw off our sense of time twice a year.
And the energizer bunny to get us to buy more batteries twice a year (did you change your smoke detector battery? No? Well, the bunny will get you!)
You people all live in the south, don't you?
Up here in Toronto, and in most of Europe, winter daylight is significantly shorter than summer daylight. On December 21st it's 07:48 - 16:48, for 9 hours of sun; on June 21st it's 05:36 - 21:03 (that's after the DST correction), for over 15 hours).
In winter it makes sense to do as many things as possible in daylight, so you want winter sunrise to correspond with the time people get out of bed.
The problem is that you also want *summer* sunrise to correspond with the time people get out of bed, otherwise you're wasting perfectly good daylight on sleep.
Without adjusting our clocks, summer sunrise here is at 04:36, and sunset at 20:36. By shifting the time by an hour in the summer, we can move an hour of that daylight into the evenings, and therefore play more baseball, go for bikerides, have summer barbecues, and so on.
Newfoundland experimented with changing their clocks by *2* hours a few years ago; I don't know if they're still doing it...
We don't have Daylight Savings Time in Saskatchewan->And Thank God! And they are trying to petition for it, it's by far the stupidest idea i've ever heard of. I hope they don't change it.
It doesn't make a difference, in winter, it's dark when I wake up, it's dark when I go to sleep. I HIGHLY doubt it saves lives! And I don't see how it saves power. The yard lamps run the same amount of hours anyway!
D.S.T. (Daylight Saving Time) does not make sense in Kenya, Africa. We dont have seasons ie Summer, Winter etc etc!!!!
I keep all my clocks, watches and pager timing on Standard Time year round. I hate DST with an immense passion.
Why should I force to observe something that I do not like or have any use for. End DST as I never even got to vote one way or another concerning the useless DST.
I love Standard Time; the real time!
I hate daylight savings time. What a useless idea. whatever happened to going for a stroll on a summers evening in the dark. I love the cool dark evenings. If your afraid to go outside in the dark you must have been breastfed too long.
The argument about the barbeques is a crock. When do you get to start a campfire. 11:00 pm in June? The kids are all asleep by then.
Policy: I would like to see daylight savings all year round. I don't get the point in having people go home in darkness; I don't get the point in having kids go home after playing sports at school in the dark and having no time outside to be free. I don't get it. We all get up in the dark in the winter. We go to work, we go to school, and we see others leave home before us. Why do we have to shorten the days so that we have virtually no time outside that's free in the evenings? yeah, if you live in climates that have to, you have to. But why do we have to if we don't have to?? "You have to come home by dark." -- that means for at least 4 months out of the year, kids have no freedom after school to just muck around outside. Gee, wonder why they're hooked on technology? Why do they watch too much TV and play too many video games? I get home in the dark; my kid gets home in the dark. We live on a marsh, on a bird reserve, on a creek; when do we ever get to appreciate it from late Oct to mid-late April? Rarely. It sucks.
I love the time changing..it gives us longer days...man some of you people don't know what your talking about!hahaha
I 100% agree with Kyle Elsman: I WANT DAYLIGHT SAVING SUMMER TIME ALL YEAR!!!
I back to work at 6:30 and it's dark! I prefer it's dark in the morning, this time is waisted at work and I don't care if it's dark or not.
But after work, I just want to go outdoors!
I like Day light Savings, means I can work the stroll earlier.
I hate it too! It's so hard to get up in the morning when it's pitch black outside! Lately it's been so nice b/c when I get up at 6:45am it's been bright and sunny outside. It's so much easier to get out of bed then. I just read somewhere that in 2007 DST will go in effect the 2nd sunday in March and last to the first sunday in November. that really pisses me off!
I hate the time change especially when you lose and hour in the spring time. I am in a fog for weeks, and finally when I get used to it it's fine. But then going back and forth I wish they would just leave it alone and not change it anymore!!!
I absolutely hate it. Have always hated it. Could never figure out why we have it. They say it is to save engergy? Excuse me but now I am using more lights in the morning to get ready. I've heard it is because the farmers wanted it, but what I've read that is not true. I've heard it is for people so they can play after work. Why does the dark stop you? I wish they would get rid of it. Thought about moving to Arizona since they don't have it.
I agree with those who want the same time all year round.
I had never heard the idea of shifting the clocks *half* an hour and leaving them there; it makes sense.
I *never* believe the government when they give me a reason for what they are doing. At any given time, they may be telling the truth; but, if they *are* telling the truth, it's only because it happens to be in their interest to do so, not because they have integrity or principles, or anything like that.
When most people think of their "government" they are accustomed to conceptualizing an amorphous, soulless machine that is operated by government employees. I used to think of government this way, until someone corrected my misconception. Those government employees *are* the government. Congress isn't an institution; it's 100 Senators, 400-odd Representatives and their support staffs. That's your legislature, not some institution called "Congress." We are ruled over by other Americans, and self-governed only when we vote, and then only to a very limited extent.
Sorry if this seems off-topic, but it really isn't. Our masters make these stupid decisions that we have to live with. Sometimes I get really sick of it.
It is a lifestyle thing.
We work our asses off in the winter and its good to go for a BBQ after work or a swim during DST.
Those warm summer night at twighlight are magical.
Stop whining about it.
Handshake, I HATE DST so much I wanted to move to Indiana, now they reversed it. I HATE DST, I think it is government control- I think it is retarded and does no good but does more harm than good. I HATE it- Hawaii and most of Arizona do not use it- let's move to Hawaii Peace
I agree with saving our precious daylight all year round, AND for the latter part of the day, so we can do things in the SUNSHINE after work, school, whatever. Adult lives have to spend such a large percentage of time inside at work; daylight saving time is one way to gain back some daylight & sunshine during the work week. I want it year round so badly!
Think about it... all DST does is make one change their clock...
Daylight savings is crap.
Just so some yuppie twat can windsurf an extra hour.
It stays light long enough through summer without it.
GET RID OF IT
Count me among the haters.
I say, let Mother Nature do her job. Guess what? It *already* stays light longer in the summer! We don't need to make it do that, *nature* does it!
When I lived in Minnesota I *really* hated it....try putting kids to bed at 8:00 when it stays light until 10:00.
I think it's a government plot to hoarde time. Think about it...in the spring we all "lose" an hour, and then we "get it back" in the fall. What about people who die before they get their hour back? What's happens to their hour? What is the government doing with it? Scary stuff.
And *now* they've just expanded it! Yecchh.
Oh well, I *do* really like the day it ends.
I do and ALWAYS have... hated DST!!! I think it affects those with a strong internal clock more than those who live solely by clocks. It takes me a long time to adjust to the lie. I can remember being screwed up by it even as a child. I also call crap on the "saving lives" theory (there have been years that DST has made me more than grumpy)and the "saving energy" theory. It has been studied and NEVER has proven to save energy. Rather, it has proven that most Americans rather than go for a stroll, go shopping. Thus, what it HAS done is cause us to use more gas. We are blessed with three weeks earlier DST to "study" yet again if it saves energy (Yeah, right!) You know who LOVES the DST? THE STORES! Good for big business! AND, we get an extra week of it this year (into the first part of Nov.) which the Halloween (candy ) industry has been lobbying for a long time. It's all about the mighty dollar folks! I hate Daylight saving time!! It is really nice to read comments from those who share my feelings about the yearly lie. It's hard to relate to those so unaffected by it
The whole thing is stupid. In our 24 hour society I seriously doubt a whole lot of energy is saved. The saving lives argument is ridiculous. The 55 MPH speed limit saved more lives than DST ever did.
And when you have little kids, you realize the cruel joke that is being foisted on us. We'll have to get blackout curtains to get the kids to go to sleep.
And everyone else gets to play more at the end of the day, but those who like to, or have to, get up early in the morning get to stumble around in the dark until the days get long enough to have some light in the morning, too.
I agree with those who propose setting the clock 30 minutes forward ONE TIME and then FORGETTING THE WHOLE STUPID IDEA!!!!!
daylight saving time is one of the worst things ever dreamed up by our worthless goverment. not only does it not have any net engery savings it messes so much with our internal clocks and probably causes more accidents due to the lack of sleep it cause for 2 weeks after the change. i'm ready to move out of the country just to advoid it. let's all write to our representives and tell them to get rid of it.
Well, I hate DST soooo much. My plan is to crack A/C to maximum 24/7 next week. Do you believe people turn off lights at home because of marginal light outside? Stop messing with my bio clock.
I hate daylight savings time. Not only do I have to get up earlier which means I am sleepy, but the lack of morning sun makes me even more sleepy. Plus the sun being up so late makes me a bit uncomfortably manic, and unable to sleep at night.
Stupid evil government forcing this nonsense on us and then starting it even earlier. Yes I'm in the southern half of the U.S.. I can't believe we have to put up with this.
I think this DST thing is a government conspiracy. The way I figure it, most people love it or hate it. By dictating that we have to endure it, it creates disagreement between the two camps. This just adds to the divisiveness in general. That in turn diverts our attention from the government's bungling and unconscionable behavior.
I think a better answer would be to put the world on Zulu or Greenwich Mean Time and leave the clocks alone.
I am another long time DST hater. Plus, I work in and IT department and you have no idea of the hassle we've gone through in the last several months to update all the firmware and software on our thousands of systms because the managers all freaked out. Heh. We were even more discouraged because our managers didn't care that 99% of our systems use UCT and DST didn't matter anyway.
As for saving energy: I noted a lot of people out on the road yesterday, out cutting the grass, out on the lake motoring around after what would have been dark. Yeah, they were running errands, doing chores, having fun. How is THAT saving energy?
Hey, I agree, let's just CHANGE TIME. Now over 2/3 of the year is DST. How does that qualify as a "special" time? I mean, when it used to be maybe 5 months it qualified as a special time. Now, it is way over half. Who are we kidding? CHANGE TIME year around. Just change it ... we we need to fall back in winter, then make THAT the special time. Hmmm, Winter Wasting Time?
Daylight Saving changes are pure stupidity. The same bozos that force this on us (Dept of Energy, Dept of Transportation) are the ones who produce reports saying it saves energy, blah, blah, blah...
Has anyone besides these folks studied this?
If the Dept. of Energy was so interested in saving energy, how about promoting better gas mileage? Hey, let's turn off our lights and go drive our 10MPG Cadillac Escalade to the shopping mall. What a waste.
I don't think anyone hates DST as much as I do. I think that this is the most intrusive of our laws to date. It takes me 3 weeks to really adjust to this insanity.
I just read a report on ABC about how Australia did the same experiment and saw no decrease in consumption of energy. In fact they saw a slight increase. Our politicians are not very smart bottom line.
I set my clock forward every year under protest.
I also recommend the book " Spring Forward: The annual madness of Daylight Saving time" by Micheal Downing. This is an excellent book on the origins of DST.
Did I say I hate DST? OK just checking
To all of you who like DST so that you can BBQ or bicycle, why don't you just get your lazy asses out of bed earlier and leave the rest of us out of this stupid idea. If the Government passed a law that we all had to wake up an hour earlier, and go to bed earlier, we would all be rioting in the streets saying this was an invasion of privacy. But if they call it something nice like "Daylight Saving" thats all better. Who wouldn't like more daylight? Unless you're a VAMPIRE? DST shows no provable reduction in energy, cost money in man hours, overtime pay,etc. We should all just switch to Coordinated Universal Time.
DSL is not a energy saving ploy...as Vickie says...it is all about getting comsumers to shop and spend more money...
I am an Australian living in Florida and I also HATE daylight savings. My home state in Australia also had this continual debate every year so when a state election came up, we had to also vote on this issue. No surprise that it was an overwhelming win to ABOLISH daylight saving FOREVER!
The way I see it is that anyone looking to get elected only needs to make getting rid of DS their election promise and they are in!
I moved to Florida two months ago, Gary, from Indiana. Indiana was a state that until the past year had no DST! And then some stupid congress people decided, hey let's be like New York and go EST w/ DST. They didn't even get DST right! We are closer and do more business with Chicago which is central time. ... And the funniest part is that when comparing the energy costs from pre-DST and post-DST, they went up! So, folks, if you think DST is so great, let me let you in on a little secret, it doesn't save and it an unnecessary inconvenience. If you like daylight, great. Then bump up the clocks year round, otherwise don't touch them. That's my 2 cents.
I am 100% FOR Daylight Savings time in Saskatchewan. Up until August of 2005 I could care less about the issue. In August of 2005 I had a 1 week vacation in Manitoba. I loved it! It seemed like the whole week we had "extra time" The sun set 1 hour later than it does in Saskatchewan and by mid August to me that is allready a big deal. We live in a province where the best season is the shortest season and we are making it even shorter by not taking advantage of DST. I encourage all of those people who are opposed or currently have no opinion to take a 1 week vacation in Manitoba at about mid-August.
Daylight savings, great if your an evening person, start work late (after 8.30am) or don't work. Me I do all my activity before work (running, cycling). Now I do it in the dark. I use to do the last 3km of my run with the sun comming up over the horizon, beautiful! Now its dark till I hop in my car to go to work. So instead of having to put up with the darkness for the winter months I have it all year. Can't do the exercise in the evening (too darn hot).
One reason for disagreement is that Daylight Saving Time is much better for some areas than for others, and Governments try to make one size fit all. DST is particularly silly in the state of Florida. See www.FloridaHatesDST.org .
Hi my name is Mark. The problem with daylight savings with me, is that I bike ride during the day and then once I have finished bike riding the day doesn't seem to end, so I feel like I havE to keep riding because it isn't dark yet, becuase I have depression and if I don't exercise I get depessed.
SCREW YOU DAYLIGHT SAVINGS SCREW YOU. What about the lovely nights with the moon high in the sky.
I am shocked by the grotesque stupidity on display here.
The whole idea is stupid. Anyone with kids knows it. Set the clocks once and then forget about it. We screw around with clocks and think we get something special, but the something special is already there.
So twice a year we screw everyone up for a couple of weeks. Dumb.
I agree. The switch to daylight savings time (and back) always increases traffic accidents. Setting your clock ahead one hour has absolutely no effect on the actual hours of daylight. Its a psychological effect only. Its like setting your scale back 10 pounds so you can feel good about losing weight. I would rather know the real time than pretend its an hour later. Plus, in the summer the sun sets later in the evening anyway. Why don't we keep the clocks constant at standard time and just get up and go to work an hour earlier? Same effect and no confusion about the time.
People who like daylight savings time, you get up an hour early and let the rest of us sleep.
Why don't we just vote on DST and get rid of it. I think the majority of the people would do away with it. Why are we messing with mother nature. We focus on science so much and are so quick to point it out as perfection until we disagree with it. Let mother nature do her work and leave it alone. I hate DST! It is hard on my kids, which makes it hard on me. Plus, it messes with my biorythm. I like the morning sunlight. It makes for a cheerier day to wake up to the light and easier to go to sleep in the dark. LETS CHANGE IT BACK TO THE WAY IT IS INTENDED TO BE AND LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!
With the world working at "normal" and "odd" hours and lights being on just about 24/7 somewhere... what energy are we saving by messing with the clocks? I have always detested time-change. Just leave the clocks and people's schedules alone. I want a website where I can sign a petition to have it repealed. That's one email I'm sure would not be a "deadender" in anyone's mailbox and would be forwarded forever.
I agree 100% taht day light savings sucks!
I have never seem any good report that it really works... If it was summer months only I couls deal with it But from spring to winter they are pushing it!
I hope we can change this thing one day...
With a sleepy child and sleepy nieces and nephews and friends who also hate this 1 hour of much needed sleep throwed away...
Is there anyone out there who would like to form a group to
get rid of Daylight Savings Time?
Something should be done to stop this outdated nonsense that causes so much trouble to most people every year.I am pretty sure there are more people that hate it than the ones that love it.
Why is everybody always so upset about DST only around the time the clocks change? If we really want to get rid of it we have to continue working on it. Anybody seen any good bumper stickers or T-shirts?
Well, the comments here seemed to stop around the time of the spring change of time, 2009. No one seems to want to continue working on this case. But, our US Congress, in its stupidity, may eventually find DST meeting ST and thereby eliminate the whole thing anyway. That follows if you consider how late DST used to begin and how early ST returned. They can't leave anything alone, not if they can enact some frivolous rule. Whyever it began, DST today is a crock.
I am so pleased the ratio here seems to be 10 to 1 AGAINST DST!
SIGN ME UP with the DST HATERS! From the deepest part of my being I ABHOR, LOATHE & DESPISE DST from it's inception. Then when they EXTENDED it & made it last even LONGER, I was heartsick. We now only have FOUR short months of "normalcy" out of 12!! It's pure evil, insanity, & debased greed to mess with Nature.
"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the EVENING and the MORNING were the FIRST day." - Genesis 1:3-5
DST "ROBS" us of our "EVENING.". God KNEW what He was doing & all was FINE for millenia with the division of night & day until stupid, arrogant, greedy men decided to "play God" & force their insanity upon us.
Also include me IN with those who call "BULL" to so-called govt studies that DST prevents crime & accidents, etc. The govt doesn't care about human life one iota, all they care about is GREED & $$$. I was thrilled when I saw the Spring Forward book author on TV several years ago -- what a breath of fresh air, FINALLY someone telling the truth & exposing this madness for what it truly is.
When he said AZ was the ONLY state without DST, I thought, Wow, bless their souls! Only 1 state out of 50 with any common sense!! I wanted to pack up & move there!!
(I didn't recall him mentioning HI, so if HI is non-DST, then bless their hearts, too!)
As for saving energy = another lie straight from hell. The hottest part of the day, the afternoons, when the A/Cs kick into high gear, are now extended clear to 9pm at night!! How does THAT save energy? It's a total crock.
Thanks for those links to orgs against DST. I'm going to check them out right now... since that horrendous time of year is almost upon us again (3/14/10) when the beautiful, luscious, cozy "EARLY evenings" will once again DISAPPEAR from the Florida landscape for another LONG miserable EIGHT-month stretch.
Daylight Saving Time should be renamed Daylight Stupid Time because that is what it is. WHY??? DST not only messes with the body clock, it does cause health problems with some people. All DST does is shift an hour of daylight from the cooler summer mornings to the HOTTER summer evenings. Anyboby for higher electric bills??? I mean come on, using 1970's data to justify a so called energy saving technique. This is a joke for one major reason---AIR CONDITIONING!!! In the late afternoon and evening the AC is running full blast to cool your home down while that sun stays up one hour later according to the clock. Turning the lights on later does not off set the running of the AC, hence higher electric bills, hence more profits for the power companies. So DST is a money making technique from the electric companies on down. Saving lives??? Based on what??? No DST!! Only most of Arizona and Hawaii do not observe DST. So let us call DST for what it is UTTER NONSENSE and/or Daylight Stupid Time.
I have always hated DST but now that I have a 10-month old, I hate it even more. Tonight was an absolute nightmare trying to get her to go to sleep an hour earlier. She knew something was wrong and fought bedtime tooth and nail. She fought it so hard, and got so worked up, that she ended up being awake well over an hour later (and therefore later than her normal ST bedtime). Thanks, government! I will look forward to several more days of this torture.
Have you noticed that the only people on this board defending DST are in CANADA?!? I'm in Florida wondering why something that supposedly benefits people near the poles is law in my state.
I made a group, started for the purpose to get people together to stop the clock switching for this. I just need to get people in there that will talk.
It is here