OS X Terminal Alternatives?

I'm not sure it's what you want exactly but you can remap the cmd-Q in Terminal.app to something else using the Interface Builder. Terminal in 10.2 is pretty crap, I hadn't come across that issue (I belong to the vi religion :) but you think they would have fixed width fonts working properly.

GLTerm is pretty decent and has the feature you desire. :-)

Jeremy,

Open a Terminal window. Goto the "Terminal" Menu.

Select "Window Settings".

In the newly open "Terminal Inspector" Window... select the "Processes" option from the drop down menu.

Look about half way down see the "Prompt before closing window" selection area?

Click on "Always" selection check box thing.

then click 'use settings as defaults' to save it and you should be done... I haven't tested it yet, but will...

john

[later] hmmm.. only solves the close problem, not

sorrry...

When I start 'screen' first in a Terminal window, then ssh out to another box to run emacs or whatever, then "accidentally" press Cmd-Q, I get this alert:

Closing this window will terminate the following processes inside it: login, bash, screen-3.9.11
Cancel Terminate

Might this help, or is the point that you need the Cmd(Alt)-Q keystroke for emacs?

http://www.pollet.net/GLterm/

yep, just found GLTerm too... awesome.

You might want to try out dataComet-Secure VX as an alternative to Terminal ($60, 30-day demo available).

It's available for download from .

thanks,
bonze

I just popped over to my running Terminal - three open windows - and hit command-Q and got:

You have 2 windows with running processes. Do you want to review open windows before quitting?

.. and clicking Cancel aborted the quit.

As a previous comment here suggested, modifying the "Processes" portion of Terminal preferences should do the trick for you. For no readily apparent reason, ssh telnet and rlogin are on the list of processes that do not force a confirmation before quitting. This is easily changed.

MacWise is a native OS X terminal emulation app. It will warn you when you attempt to quit or close a window when a connection is open.
(Look in Preferences for that option).

You can get a demo at
http://www.macwise.com

iTerm seems to be a decent Terminal alternative on Mac OS X.

http://iterm.sourceforge.net/

As a temporary fix, you could wrap your emacs session in a screen session, and then just re-attach to it when you accidently close the terminal. That way you wouldn't lose any work.

Does anyone know of any VGA fonts (with the full character set, like shine or bright for xterm), for the OS X terminal?

thanks to Jeff for the fix

iTerm is a decent Terminal alternative for Mac OS X.

Hi there,

I had the same problem as the topicstarter posted...

Tried iTerm.. and it rocks!
Especially like the tab-feature of this app! =]

Cheers!
Zeno

:(

I just logged in via SSH on a linux machine..

Used IRSSI .. which uses alt-1, alt-2, etc for changing between screens.. this doesn't work..

Anyone knows how to fix this?

Thanks in advance! :) Cheers! Zeno

I'm also running irssi in terminal.

The problem is that I can't click urls with my mouse. So far I've tried iTerm (cmd+click -> nothing) and GLterm which crashed instantly after I pressed enter.

So, any ideas?

I've had the same problems and particularly about ssh'ng to a server that I run irssi from. Using terminal.app alt+1-0 and alt+q-o work for windows 1-10 and 11-19, but I could not get the pgup and pgdn to work properly. However in xterm and iTerm pgup/pgdn work fine and the alt shortcuts don't work. The only way I've been able to get things to work so far has been hitting escape then hitting 1 or whatever window you want to jump to, but don't hold it down like you would with the alt sequence. If anyone knows of a way to bind that within xterm or iTerm I'd be interested in that. Or if someone knows a way to get pgup/pgdn/home/end to work as sending strings to the shell in terminal.app.

I know its abit of a delay from the last post but if anyone is wanting to know how to use the pgup/pgdn in OSX terminal when using screen - use the shift key - just found it out myself, everything now works fine :)

Oh... Thank you very much guys! iTerm is it that I needed :)\

I just discovered iTerm... source code, HUZZAH!

GLTerm didn't do the trick for me.

You can edit the Terminal.app NIB.

Good fonts: Monaco, TheSansMono, Consolas, Lucida Console, Lucida Sans Typewriter, Courier New, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, some of the various Letter Gothic fonts (which are too light & narrow for my tastes... your mileage may vary).

The greatest monospaced truetype (or opentype or postscript) font for programmers that has all the bells and whistle to take advantage of hinting and subpixel placement and antialiasing in columnarly uniform regular, bold, italic and bold-italic (rather than just regular with synthetic version of the bold and italic variants): none. Yet.

If you're on a MacbookPro laptop, and using irssi with screen on a remote machine via ssh; heres what works (for me)

To switch between irssi windows (normally alt+1 etc.) - use;
Press Esc, let go - then press number, 1, 2 whatever

To pageup/pagedown - use this keyboard sequence (must be in this order)

Press (and hold) Shift-key, now Press and hold fn-key, now with these keys pressed (in that order) - press the pageup (arrow up) or pagedown (arrow down) keys to pageup/down

If your backspace key is acting as a 'delete'-key in irssi in screen, Hit command+I, in terminal to bring up your window preferences, under the Keyboard settings, tick 'Delete key sends backspace' - that should fix that.

So, slightly more tricky on the laptop, but achievable none-the-less

Matt

You all need to learn to fuckin experiment.

For IRSSI to work correctly WITH ALT, instead of escape:
Go to the applications Menu:
Terminal->Window Settings
Choose the option for keyboard settings in the drop down at the top, and check 'use option key as meta key'. Fixed.

The quitting problem is insanely easy to fix.

In the application's menu:
Terminal->Window Settings
Choose the option for process settings in the drop down at the top, and choose the radio button that says always.

Although that isn't even really a problem. You'd have to be a complete moron to not learn your leson after losing your work a few times.

iTerm is crap. GLTerm is crap. The standard Mac OS-X terminal is perfect, you just need to try to figure it out before you go around saying it's crap. RTFM. :)

-- monokrome --

> You all need to learn to fuckin experiment.

You don't get it, and let's tone down the language, please.

The problem is the author is AN EMACS USER (as am I), as opposed to people who use vi -- who don't seem to understand that we DO NOT use 300 baud modems anymore.

The meta key for emacs should NOT the "alt" key on a Macintosh keyboard - it is located immediately to the left of the spacebar on ALL other systems. So we want the command key to be the meta key, not that (useless) 'alt' key.

I managed to get GLTerm to do what I wanted by changing the command-key assignments in the menus, and using command as meta.

I can't find any other terminal (other than XTerm) that does what I want. My only other option is to run ansi term in emacs.

> Why, you ask, would I have a habit of hitting cmd-Q? I'm an Emacs user.

There's your problem right there. Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a real editor.

great comments thread, helped me get my osx term setup perfectly for irssi. But yeah, tone it down and relax! :)

> There's your problem right there. Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a real editor.

Emacs is the only real editor

Here's the solution for iTerm:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/196357/making-iterm-to-translate-meta-key-in-the-same-way-as-in-other-oses

Go to Bookmarks > Manage Profiles. Then select Keyboard Profiles > Global and choose Option Key as Meta. This works for me in version 0.9.6.1201.

In the interest of educating the lazyweb, these tips are incredibly helpful on the subject of OS X and keyboard stuff:

http://tech.inhelsinki.nl/gnu_developement_under_mac_os_x/

ZOC (http://www.emtec.com/zoc/index.html is a new terminal for OS X. It's a bit Windows style (like SecureCRT) but allows remapping of all keys, and comes with Xterm features like using Alt as the Meta key.

$80 for ZOC? You have to be kidding me!

I run emacs in the terminal (uses ctrl-W for pasting). I accidentally end up hitting this combo outside of emacs which killed my terminal instantly - really bloody annoying when you have multiple jobs and buffers running.

Found the simplest solution to the problem, no remapping or change of terminal program needed:

open a terminal -> 'terminal' menu -> 'preferences' -> 'shell' tab -> set 'Prompt before closing = Always'

Best